Blue Cavern

Thanks Dyar,

I noticed it takes a lot of time already!

But it is also fun.

I finished the playsetpage about the petrol pump. If anyone notice anything( information, pictures etc) I have missed let me know.

I agree with Dyar. Once you get it completed which I hope it never really will. Meaning new stuff. It will probibly be one of the first sites I go to.I use two sites pretty much for any refrence I need. Dyar's and Gerda's. I do use others too at times.

Andre,
One more thing...you are adding how rare or common an item is, which is great but always up for debate

However, since you are doing this, I would put some kind of explanation on the site that explains what you understand under rare, very rare, common-rare and so on.

For example..you are listing the conveyor belt as common-rare,..I personally would say it's rare because it was so hard for me to find...again it depends on the eye of the beholder..but if you put some kind of explanation out, those looking at your site may understand your rating system better.

What I mean is putting an explanation on the homepage that goes something like this (with your own definition)

Common - easily found in every store or on ebay or in collections
common - rare - can be found in stores or on ebay with some research
rare - hard to find
very rare - very hard to find, usually only the most dedicated collectors own this one

I think you get my drift?

i think the whole rare and not so rare depends on where you live. some things are easier to find in europe then in the states and vice versa

I agree with you both,

It is always hard to rate items, but I prefer to rate them like this compared to prices, since they changes so much over time.

I will put some kind of explanation regarding how I rate them.

And Maureen I always appritiate feedback and are willing to change how I rate them since this is hard to do. Regarding the conveyor belt I agree it maybe should be rated as rare. I write in the infomataion that I rate it as rare if the belt is in good condition.

I use the rating like this:

Very common
Common
Rare
Very rare

Then I also use Common-Rare and Rare-Common if it is somewhere in between common and rare. If common is first it is closer to common then rare etc.

For new collectors it could be good to have this information, but as you say it is hard to rate many items.

Andre,
One more thing...you are adding how rare or common an item is, which is great but always up for debate

However, since you are doing this, I would put some kind of explanation on the site that explains what you understand under rare, very rare, common-rare and so on.

For example..you are listing the conveyor belt as common-rare,..I personally would say it's rare because it was so hard for me to find...again it depends on the eye of the beholder..but if you put some kind of explanation out, those looking at your site may understand your rating system better.

What I mean is putting an explanation on the homepage that goes something like this (with your own definition)

Common - easily found in every store or on ebay or in collections
common - rare - can be found in stores or on ebay with some research
rare - hard to find
very rare - very hard to find, usually only the most dedicated collectors own this one

I think you get my drift?

I changed it to rare now, since I think you are correct about that Maureen!

If anyone disagree with other things let me know.

I added an explanation regarding the rating system on the homepage.

Also a link to this forum.

Congratulations to your new website! Very good idea, our new online catalogue for smurfs and their boxes

Congratulations to your new website! Very good idea, our new online catalogue for smurfs and their boxes

Thanks Benny,

I will start the variationsthreads again soon and those will be very helpful in listing as many variations as possible.

And I have a pretty good idea when most variations can have been made, so I will write as much information as possible regarding them. But regarding rating them and also showing variations I will need help.

Tom in France told me I could use this picture when showing the brownish-red belt on the conveyor. Do any of you collectors have this colour on the belt?

Unfortunaly, I have currently only the green belt!
Like you said, it's very porous and therfore I flex it's not on the rolls.
I have seen the red tape only in the MAFI dealer catalog.

Very nice picture!

Hi Andre

Not sure if both are original.
But the belt is not painted and feels like the green one.
In both there are no sacks.
Sorry i have no further info..........

Tintin

WOW Frank really amazing belts! Congratulations

incredible...I never saw such boxes with coloured belts
Did you buy them like that in a shop?

Lia

Hi

Thanks !!
They feel the same as the green one.
Still not sure if these are real but they look very real to me.

No i didn't bought them in a shop.
The seller knew what he was selling so.............. my pockets were empty after buying these.
But i still don't regret it.

Tintin

Hi Andre

Not sure if both are original.
But the belt is not painted and feels like the green one.
In both there are no sacks.
Sorry i have no further info..........

Tintin

Those looks great Frank!

Are the thickness the same?

I have never seen any like that before. As we have said before we have no idea if they were real or not. Maybe Schleich had plans on changing the material since it was not so good???

Regarding the ce stickers on your boxes.
When Schleich started using CE around 1990 they used a sticker without the barcode. This sticker can be found on boxes from early 90s. After this Schleich added a barcode on the boxes. This we can find on some of the boxes, like supersmurfboxes and largehouse boxes. They also added the barcode to the sticker. Most likely so they still could use the older boxes without having to make new ones.

So the boxes you have were most likely sold during the 90s.