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PostPosted: Tue Feb 05, 2013 7:33 am
by Lia
btw...

my two Valentines have different tags too ( the one without mistake came with 3 from Germany,together with the other 7 celebrationsmurfs that all have CE??? the one with mistake was bought in Holland)

PostPosted: Wed Feb 06, 2013 1:12 am
by The Smurf Collector
It would be interesting to know how many were released with the mistake. Anyone out there would they like to guess

PostPosted: Wed Feb 06, 2013 11:38 am
by Tintin
Hi Lia

Very nice.
I found an error with the 3+ tag.
So also in that some variation.................. :-D
As you all know i like to find paint errors but this is a nice one to :D

gr Tintin

PostPosted: Wed Feb 06, 2013 12:19 pm
by Lia
I know Tintin:-)) You`re an expert on finding them! :D

Lia

PostPosted: Wed Feb 06, 2013 12:25 pm
by André
Great that we all found them. :cheers: Tintin, do you mean a painterror also??

Kath,

I would guess they are very common so far since many already are produced?? :-? :D

PostPosted: Wed Feb 06, 2013 12:43 pm
by Tintin
Hi Andre

No no painterror, wish it was.
Got the Sch or Scn mistake with the 3+ tag................
But one day i hope to find a painterror :-D
You can't find to many of those :)

gr Tintin

PostPosted: Wed Feb 06, 2013 4:12 pm
by Smurfysmurf
I am hoping to find it in five weeks in Berlin :-D

PostPosted: Fri Feb 08, 2013 6:44 am
by Arno
In my shop in Paris, I found a Valentine with mistaken markings, cavity n2 with tag 3+ / I also have one with right markings and cavity n2 from Germany with CE tag... as everything seems to be possible !

PostPosted: Fri Feb 08, 2013 12:51 pm
by André
In my shop in Paris, I found a Valentine with mistaken markings, cavity n2 with tag 3+ / I also have one with right markings and cavity n2 from Germany with CE tag... as everything seems to be possible !
Arno,

the cavity 2 you talk about is on the smurf, right?

PostPosted: Fri Feb 08, 2013 3:49 pm
by paolo
Found the error version in Italy too. I believe that all the cavity 2 molds have the mistake on the markings.

PostPosted: Sat Feb 09, 2013 1:49 am
by André
Here is the picture of the cavitynumber on the heart, for those of you who have not found it yet.

Since this is a two-piece mold both pieces have cavitynumbers.

And the hearts with cavitynumber 3 have the mistake. And then also hearts with cavitynumber 2? Is that correct Paolo? Arno? :cheers:

I don´t know when and if they have changed this already and the ones manufactured from today are correct?? :cheers:

PostPosted: Sat Feb 09, 2013 2:16 am
by André
Here is one example of how Schleich does this now.

Could be interesting for some collectors.

Here you see that all parts and accessories cavitynumbers and clock- date-markings. Both these markings are so that Schleich can see if anything is wrong in their cavities in the molds and then also when it was made. Therefore these markings are on all pieces. So if a smurf is made out of 2 or 3 pieces then all the pieces have these markings.

But the addressmarking is a regulation for toys and Schleich only need to have that on one piece. So in this case with the computer, the addressmarking is only on the computerbase and not on the other pieces. :cheers:

Here is what Schleich told us in another thread: "Thanks to new laws in the US (I believe it is ASTM F963 or CPSIA or so..) the manufacturer of toys has to ensure that he can document all production steps and materials used. This should be relevant for all toy manufacturers, but as Schleich wants to be part of elite of toy manufacturers, they take safety issues especially important. The law started in August 2009, but it still seems uncertain what exactly the manufacturers are required to do." And this "The supersmurfs will have markings, too. The idea is that for example if a customer sends in a broken part, Schleich will be able to identify which material batch was being used and when the part was being produced (and on which machine). But Schleich policy is not yet 100% clear, so you might not find the marking on every single piece on a supersmurf.. "

Another intersting thing is that the clockmarking is part of the mold and therefore will be on the same place all the time. It is only the inner part of the marking they change depending on when it was made and which year. Schleich: "The marking is part of the mold,
The inner part of the date stamp has to be renewed every year.

PostPosted: Sat Feb 09, 2013 7:09 am
by paolo
I didn't notice the cavity number on the heart. At the shop where I bought my new smurfs there was only one without error with cavity 1 on the smurf and all the other ones had the error and cavity 2 on the smurf.

PostPosted: Sat Feb 09, 2013 8:58 am
by André
I didn't notice the cavity number on the heart. At the shop where I bought my new smurfs there was only one without error with cavity 1 on the smurf and all the other ones had the error and cavity 2 on the smurf.
OK, I understand. :cheers:

But the cavitynumber on the smurf has nothing to do with the error on the heart. It is not the same mold.

Cavity 3 on the heart has the error. And cavity 1 and 4 are correct. But I don't know with cavity 2 on the heart. Have anyone checked a heart with cavitynumber 2 on the back of the heart?? :D

PostPosted: Sun Feb 10, 2013 3:27 pm
by Arno
oups !
you are right André : the wrong markings are on the heart with cavity 3... the cavity 2 is on the smurf !
you know that it is always difficult for me to find cavities ! :banghead: