[André]

Hi,

today I will start to try to make a markingchronology page with all markings-changes made by Schleich and Bully from 1965 to today. But that will probably take at least 2 days???

In the meantime I have a question for you that I guess many collectors have.

I got the nice bundesliga-boxes from Dennis and now have some questions. First the articlenumbers.

On these boxes there are no articlenumbers, since the articlenumbers instead are on the teamsticker put on that box.

The bundesligaset have articlenumber 43110.

And then I assume with 22 boxes existing the numbers for the teams are from 43111 to 43132. I think the teams are numbered in the exact same order as pictured in the catalogue, but I was wondering if someone has these already listed with teamnames???

Another question is also if there are variations of each team??? I notice in the catalogues, where I can see all colors used in the beginning and also on the picture on the box, that for example Bayern Munchen are painted different. Is that correct??? Or just a first variation never sold by Schleich in 1980???

[André]

By the way the smaller boxes used are the same ones as in the variable shadow box Schleich sold.

[Smurfysmurf]

I have never heard of variations but that doesn't mean there aren't any .

I do have two VFB Stuttgart smurfs..one in the box and one with no box...both are exactly the same.

[André]

I found the list of the first 18 teams from Schleich.

[André]

I checked DSK 4 and they give the last 4 teams for me with articlenumber.

43129 Braunschweig
43130 Werder Bremen
43131 Darmstadt 98
43132 Herta BSC Berlin

Also 43140 for the german national teamcoloured kicker.

They also have 2 variations of Bayern munchen and HSV described.

[André]

Different bayern munchen in catalogues and maybe the ones described in DSK 4???

[Tintin]

Hi Andre

Great topic, i love the bundesliga.

The Bayern on the first picture i have never seen.
Also the plastic with the clubsign is different.
The angles are much sharper then the ones i am use to.
Maybe this one is only to be found in the catalogue but never came out.

Tintin

[André]

You could be right Frank,

but what is the second version described in the DSK??? it says red and white shorts and that goes with the first picture??

The HSV i think was first with white socks and then later as on many of the sockels I have seen had blue socks????

[Tintin]

Hi

The HSV i have seen ones on a picture, must have been in the topic 20035 .........
Never seen one on a fair or collection.

Not sure if there are other variations.
I got two were the colour red is a bit different, but that's not what you see as variation i guess.

Tintin