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Postby Pitufo » Tue Jan 23, 2007 6:50 pm
Hi, evryone!!!!!!!!

What´s the difference btw 20056 Cards Smurf variant 4 (in DSK IV) and Promo smurf nr 224? I don´t know... :-? :-?
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Postby Smurfysmurf » Tue Jan 23, 2007 7:08 pm
Joaquin,
I think the difference is the word ASS on the card..If I remember correctly, ASS is a German firm releasing deck of cards and other board games :-? :D
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Postby Syd Smurf » Tue Jan 23, 2007 8:48 pm
There is no difference Joaquin...I don't have the DSK available but if it's the one I am thinking of without the ASS wording then they are exactly the same. I have decided to not call that one a promo and only a variation instead.

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Postby Rachel » Wed Jan 24, 2007 11:57 am
Hi Joaquin, I totally agree with Dyar and like him, have put this smurf down as a variation rather than a promo. :-D
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Postby Pitufo » Wed Jan 24, 2007 2:11 pm
Thanks guys!!!!!!! :D :D
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Postby Guest » Fri Jan 26, 2007 1:46 am
I think it is a promo because it was also sold inside a card box with a card game and that ASS promo smurf. So it was sold as promotional thing. But he is very very common so it is very easy to get that one...

Postby Pitufo » Fri Jan 26, 2007 6:51 am
Hi, Cheesy!!!!According to DSK IV, the smurf in the box with cards is 226...Has nr 224 been sold inside a box too?Or is it the same one?
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Postby XoioX2000 » Fri Jan 26, 2007 9:25 am
I do class it as a promos: although it does not have the ASS writing on it, the embleme is the one of the company... So it's a variation of the promos imho...
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Postby Tojo » Fri Jan 26, 2007 11:13 am
Those photos really show the difference very well. I didn't know there were 2 variations of the ASS smurf.
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Postby Rachel » Fri Jan 26, 2007 4:21 pm
That is certainly a valid point David, I hadn't thought about it like that. :-D

I suppose in this instance, the shape of the emblem itself is enough to show the company. I may well have to reconsider it's place in the collection. I had purely gone on the DSK before. :D
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Postby XoioX2000 » Fri Jan 26, 2007 4:34 pm
I had purely gone on the DSK before. :D
Well Rachel, you know my deep inner thoughts about the DSK...

All that said, as Cheesy was pointed out: The 3 different ones could be found in the boxes sold with a pack of cards: I'm not sure there was a rule on which one you were getting in that case.

It is also truth that for the sockels which had nothing to do with ASS, the smurf with the emblem only has been used. I do however think that it was an error at the time or Schleich simply run out of the normal ones. And ASS probably never complained as it was extra publicity...

For example, that sockel below can be found without the ASS emblem.
(sorry the picture is not very clear on that one)

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Postby Guest » Fri Jan 26, 2007 4:56 pm
Lovely sockel anyway David :D

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Postby Rachel » Fri Jan 26, 2007 6:37 pm
Well Rachel, you know my deep inner thoughts about the DSK...
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Postby Syd Smurf » Fri Jan 26, 2007 6:43 pm
I did think like that David but then I actually changed my mind a while later.

I thought maybe (yes folks just a guess theory here) that maybe they had left overs of the promo and therefore just used up stock as a regular variation....which may explain why it was used on the sockel as well.

I guess they would still be considered promos but then why weren't all of them stamped with the ASS print.....it just seems very fishy to me....which isn't always a bad thing :D

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Postby KiwiSchlumpf » Sat Jan 27, 2007 2:44 am
Is anyone else giggling right now or is it just me? :) I think the alternate word for donkey's bottom has infested this topic.

Thanks for showing us your smurf with the big ASS David! :shock: If you look at David's pictures, even the card playing smurf is having a hard job hiding the sniggers!

Postby Simon X » Sat Jan 27, 2007 3:27 am
I have looked at my two card-player-sockles and saw that one has the normal non-promo hearts on the card and the other one the ASS emblem...But mine has no red any more. It's really difficult to see that. :(

So they have put the promo-smurf on the sockle not only one time... :???:

Perhaps as already said they didn't have the normal card smurfs any more, it was a mistake or they made it to promote for ASS secretly. 8-)

In Germany we call that hidden advertising "Schleich-Werbung"..! :eek: :)

Postby Smurfysmurf » Sat Jan 27, 2007 5:14 am
That is pretty good, Simon..... :) :) :) :) :)
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Postby XoioX2000 » Sat Jan 27, 2007 5:59 am
I did think like that David but then I actually changed my mind a while later.

I thought maybe (yes folks just a guess theory here) that maybe they had left overs of the promo and therefore just used up stock as a regular variation....which may explain why it was used on the sockel as well.
Yeap, that probably is what happened. That's why I would still class it as a promo, because that was the original intent.
I guess they would still be considered promos but then why weren't all of them stamped with the ASS print.....it just seems very fishy to me....which isn't always a bad thing :D

Dyar
Very fishy indeed... Might have to send "you-know-who" to investigate...
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Postby XoioX2000 » Sat Jan 27, 2007 6:01 am
Is anyone else giggling right now or is it just me? :) I think the alternate word for donkey's bottom has infested this topic.

Thanks for showing us your smurf with the big ASS David! :shock: If you look at David's pictures, even the card playing smurf is having a hard job hiding the sniggers!
Talk about choosing the wrong name for a company or a product... like "Ka" or even better "Wii"... You'd think in 2007, they'd know better!

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Postby XoioX2000 » Sat Jan 27, 2007 6:10 am
So they have put the promo-smurf on the sockle not only one time... :???:

Perhaps as already said they didn't have the normal card smurfs any more, it was a mistake or they made it to promote for ASS secretly. 8-)

In Germany we call that hidden advertising "Schleich-Werbung"..! :eek: :)
Yeap I have seen the same sockel with and without the emblem, although I don't have them to show you at the mo. The only ones I have are below (+ the german one above), but it's interesting to see that the "mistake" was carried out on French and English sockels too...

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