[André]

It was written 2003.

To me it seems Hugues Dayez wants to tell us how Peyo got the right the the smurffigurines and Dupuis didn´t want a part of this. And this turned out to be a big mistake with the success all over the world.

And since it was the Schleichsmurfs that was the first made with only peyo as "copyright" it probably is about the first Schleichsmurfs??

Would be lovely to see a cornflakes box with a Schleichsmurf inside!!!

[Lia]

Here is the early Bully history:

1973 Firmengründung durch Volkmar Klaus, erste Produktion in einer kleinen Garage in Spraitbach, einem Dorf in der Nähe von Stuttgart. Volkmar Klaus wählte die Französische Bulldogge als Markenzeichen seiner Firma, weil er sie züchtete. Mit den Jahren wurde er weltweit bekannt als Mr. BULLY



1977 Einweihung im Oktober des neuen Verwaltungsgebäudes mit Lager,Zentralversand und Büros in Spraitbach in der Bully-Straße



1978 Einweihung des neuen Produktionsbetriebes in Ronsberg/Allgäu, eigener hochspezialisierter Formenbau, Konstruktionsabteilung, Fertigung auf 20 Spritzguß-Maschinen. Eigene Künstler zum Modellieren, Technische Angestellte.



1983 Produktionsbetriebe + Malbetriebe in Deutschland, Portugal,Polen, Slowakei,Hong Kong/China.

[Lia]

Here is the translation ( sorry for the delay, but it was dinnertime in Holland)

1973 Company was founded by Volkmar Klaus, first production took place in a small garage in Spraitbach, a village near Stuttgart. Volkmar Klaus choose the french Bulldog as logo for his company, because he grew bulldogs. During the years, he became known as Mr.BULLY

1977 Inauguration in october from the new ( management) buildings for storage, central shippings, offices in Spraitbach in Bullystreet

1978 Inauguration of the new production company in Ronsberg/Allgäu, our own highly specialized
“Formenbau” building for molds??, constructiondepartment, production for 20 injection mould engines, own artists for modeling, technicians.

1983 productioncompanies and markingscompanies in Germany, Portugal, Poland Slowakia, Hong Kong China

Lia

[Lia]

Lia,

maybe you can send the scans to me also??

Of course, I hope to be able to read the french text and translate it!
I will forward them to you André!

( Can the Kelloggs smurfskatterz be a coïncidence?)

Lia

[Pitufo]

I will send you a copy to you André, of course (one of them it is a short cartoon as reclame publicitaire:

KELLOGS presente...and one of the frames is a smurf running towards a box of corn flakes (no real but painted). On the box, there is a circle where I can read "avec schtroumpf". And the cartoon is from 1966

[Tintin]

Hi Lia

( Can the Kelloggs smurfskatterz be a coïncidence?)

I was just thinking the same
Since i don't have that book this topic is very hard to follow for me,
hopefully one day i will understand it all !!!

Tintin

[André]

What does this mean??

Is it the companies that have been promoted by Smurfs and the year??

Kelloggs 1966 and Association des paralysés de France 1994??


Annexe 1 : Les bandes dessinées Schtroumpfs et la publicité
Episodes des Schtroumpfs, inédits ou non, offerts en cadeau promotionnel
Episode Offert par Année
Un Schtroumpf pas comme les autres Kwatta 1964
(Gags en une page) Kellogg's 1966
Les Schtroumpfs et les jouets La dernière heure 1969
Le Cosmoschtroumpf Biscuiteries nantaises 1970
L'apprenti Schtroumpf Kwatta 1971
Schtroumpfonie en ut Total 1972
Le Schtroumpfissime Total 1972
Le Cosmoschtroumpf Total 1972
Les Schtroumpfs olympiques Coca-cola 1979
Benco et les Schtroumpfs Banania-Benco 1979
Les Schtroumpfs au théâtre Coton-tige Orbel 1983
Le Schtroumpf aux souhaits Coton-tige Orbel 1983
Un Schtroumpf qui bricole Coton-tige Orbel 1983
Gargamel et le cadeau schtroumpfant Coton-tige Orbel 1983
Le Schtroumpf Chétif Coton-tige Orbel 1983
Un monstre chez les Schtroumpfs Coton-tige Orbel 1983
Le Schtroumpf Coton Coton-tige Orbel 1983
Le Schtroumpf Sourd Coton-tige Orbel 1983
Le Bébé Schtroumpf Télémoustic 1985
Les p'tits Schtroumpfs Gervais 1987
Les Schtroumpfs éclopés Association des paralysés de France 1994
Les Schtroumpfs de papier Mestdagh 1995
Les Schtroupfosaures Mestdagh 1995
Le Schtroumpf de l'espace Fristi-Nutricia 1996
Docteur Schtroumpf UPSA-Medica 1996
Le Schtroumpfeur de ballons Fristi-Cécémel 1998
Schtroumpferies n° 1 Esso 1999
Schtroumpferies n°2 Shell 2000
Le trésor des Schtroumpfs Banque Sogenal Inconnue
Les Schtroumpfs olympiques Agruma et la fée des fruits Inconnue
Le pays des Schtroumpfs Foire internationale de Bruxelles Inconnue
15 histoires de Schtroumpfs Hit Inconnue

[André]

Kwatta in 1964???

Lia have you tasted Kwatta chocolate???

Kwatta is sinds 1972 een volledig Belgisch merknaam voor chocoladeprodukten. Eerder was het een Belgisch-Nederlands merk chocolade, geproduceerd in Breda en Bois-d'Haine (sinds 1913),

[Lia]

what a question André...everybody in Holland had this tin ( with the Kwatta soldier) ))))

[Lia]

I think, the answer to your other question about promotional smurfitems must be yes. I recognize a lot of companies that had a smurf as promo!

[Smurfysmurf]

Andre, can you post a link to the site you found the list at?

[André]

Andre, can you post a link to the site you found the list at?

It is a long masterscience PDF file in french Maureen! I don´t understand anything, but I think it has to do with the symbolic in the comics rather than the Schleichsmurfs?? University in Lille???

Maybe any frenchspeaking member can tell me what it´s about??

http://mastersciencepo.univ-lille2.fr/f ... 2007_3.pdf

[Lia]

That`s a huge file André and it will take me days to read and understand it, but I think,these are the titles of comics that were given as a promo item for those particular companies. ( if I understood it correctly)

Lia

[André]

Regarding the 1966 Kelloggs smurfs.

I am looking forward to hear what Alan has to say.

But so faar I see these kelloggs smurfs, after reading what Joaquin translated and skipped the things that seems wrong, just as smurfs given away with Kelloggs cornflakes at the same time as Schleich made them.

If you look at these pictures it is very common that Kelloggs used toys in the boxes and my guess is that Kelloggs just like Waldbaur asked the smurfmanufacturer if they could make toys for them to put inside the boxes. If you search on internet for these pictures you find a lot!!!

Schleich themselves tells that these have been made by them since 1965 and I am pretty sure ( 99,9%) they were marked Schleich from the beginning.

But let´s see what Alan has up his sleaves???

[André]

That`s a huge file André and it will take me days to read and understand it, but I think,these are the titles of comics that were given as a promo item for those particular companies. ( if I understood it correctly)

Lia

Yes,

it seems more like it has to do with the comics. The names are comics in different magazines.

I just thought about Joaquins Kelloggs comic from 1966 he told us about from the Peyo book!! Comicstrip and Kelloggs and 1966 goes well with this??? But I don´t understand french so I have no idea??

[Pitufo]

This is the cartoon...

[Lia]

I`ve received several pages from Joaquin ( my reading in French goes slowly so it will take some time to understand all,but..) and I can only reach the same conclusion as Joaquin in his first post
They really mention Bully as the maker of the smurfs for Kelloggs and I have the impression too that they talk about the sixties.

Lia

[Azrael]

If you can wait for the timer at the bottom of this page, I promise you that more info on this subject will be released!

http://www.britishcollectorsclub.com/

It must be a HUGE co-incidence that this thread has started when this is about to go live.

Al

[Ritter_Schlumpfenherz]

Yeeeeeeeeeah I'm looking forward to the launch of the BCC, Al.
I wonder whether I may join the club, since I'm not from the UK.

[Azrael]

We have over 5000 members listed already (as you can imagine, this is one of the reasons it's taken a while to start up.. well.. that and we wanted to have something special for the launch) and yes, most of our members are from oversees!